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At the recent IMB meeting in Springfield. IL the come in adopted five principles for contextualization. Having mulled over the principles for a few days and having read The Camel carefully multiple times (see series of articles summarized ). I proclaim it an obvious fact to any impartial observer that The Camel is in violation of the new IMB principles. The first principle is a simple affirmation of the unique nature of the Christian Bible. I believe that the Camel's reliance upon the Qur'an to the near exclusion of the Bible could be construed as violation of principle one but the Camel does not explicitly violate this first principle. The second principle poses greater problems for the Camel method. We affirm that there is a biblical precedent for using “bridges” to reach out to others with the Gospel (Acts 17:22-23). The fact that Paul mentioned an aspect of the Athenians’ idolatrous worship was not a tacit approval of their entire religious system. He was merely utilizing a religious element of their setting (an altar to an unknown god) to connect with his hearers and connect to the truth. Similarly our personnel may use elements of their host culture’s worldview to bridge to the Gospel. This be not be construed as an embracing of that worldview. It should be noted that Paul not only used their system to connect he also contrasted elements of it with the truth. Our evangelism must go beyond bridges to present the whole unvarnished truth of the Gospel (1 Corinthains 15:1-4). (HT: ) The Camel is long on coat and short on gospel. It fastidiously avoids the kind of contrast that Paul performed at Athens (see my earlier post on just this subject ). The Camel is just the kind of misapplication of Paul's work in Athens that is explicitly singled out in this principle as faulty. We affirm an incarnational come to missions that is bound by biblical parameters. Following the example of Him who became flesh (John 1:14) it is appropriate that our personnel continue to tailor their ministry to their setting. The Apostle Paul likewise embraced this come. “I am made all things to all men that I might by all means save some” (1 Corinthians 9:22b). We advocate the learning and appropriate utilization of language and grow. Constant vigilance is required lest contextualization degenerate into syncretism (1). Where linguistic categories and cultural mores are deficient these must be challenged and corrected with biblical truth (2). For example the theological construct represented by the term “Allah” in the Qur’anic system is deficient and unacceptable. However the primary air is not the call. The same name is used by devout Christians and it represents a appear scriptural believe of God. In fact historically the Christian use of “Allah” predates the go of Islam. The missionary task is to teach who “Allah” truly is in accord with biblical revelation. This footnote calls for the missionary to "teach who 'Allah' truly is in accord with biblical revelation" as an amplification to the idea that "[deficient linguistic categories and cultural mores] must be challenged and corrected with biblical truth. [emphasis mine]" Yet the precise core of the Camel method—that which makes it what it is—is the great compassionate it takes not to contend or correct Muslim notions about who Allah is. Rather the Camel craftily suggests that the New Testament simply gives some additional information (sanctioned by Islam no less!) to broaden the Muslim's understanding of Allah. The IMB offers a footnote about explaining who Allah is as an explanation of a proper situation calling for challenge and correction of false cultural ideas. To be in conformity with principle three the Camel must incorporate a direct correction indicating that the Christian "Allah" is not the same as the Muslim Allah. We affirm both the sufficiency and unique nature of biblical revelation (2 Timothy 3:14-17). We contradict that any other purported sacred writing is on a par with the Bible. While compose to a target group’s religious writings can be made as a move of bridge-building care should be exercised not to imply a wholesale acceptance of such. [emphasis exploit] Yet the Camel says "I accept with what the Qur'an says about Mohammed" (see my post ) encourages the prospective convert to search the Qur'an as confirmation of the gospel message and nowhere offers the slightest critique of the Qur'an in its authority circumscribe or any other thing. Surely one can presume that "[exercising care] not to imply a wholesale acceptance of [the Qur'an]," whatever that evince might mean means something other than doing absolutely nothing. Yet the Camel method does absolutely nothing to prevent the presumption that the "Isahi Muslim" is totally convinced of Quranic authority—indeed the philosophical underpinning of the whole method is a presumption that everyone involved will affirm (even if dishonestly) the reliability of the Qur'an. The Camel violates principle four. We affirm the be to be ethically sound in our evangelistic methodology (2 Corinthians 4:2). Becoming all things to all men in an incarnational approach does not necessitate an ethical breach. Jesus instructed his disciples to be as “wise as serpents and harmless as doves” (Matthew 10:16). We are to be wise in our bridge building. We are to be harmless in our integrity as we hold forth the truth ( 3). I have already demonstrated invincibly that the Camel dishonestly handles the challenge about what Christians believe about Mohammed (see my previous post ). Given the inclusion of the footnote. I do not see how anyone can go to any conclusion other than that the author of principle five had in front of him The Camel open to page 144 as he was penning this proscription. For anyone to suggest that the Camel might be compatible with principle five is to strain the limits of credulity. Now that our trustees undergo given us these sound and godly principles all that remains to be seen is what they and our IMB staff will do to correct an obviously aberrant missiological strategy in our midst—the Camel method. Bart. Forgive me as I undergo not totally digested your affix and will do that later. I do undergo one honest question. I mean this sincerely: If not using the word Allah when communicating to an Arabic speaker what word should we use that will communicate the idea of the supreme being and one that will share the idea of a supreme being? As a missions pastor I travel a lot in Muslim contexts and I am not aware of a word that will share the idea of a supreme being other than Allah. I am talking from an international context not American. The problem with The Camel is not its use of the word "Allah" in its text but its reliance upon a strategy not to differentiate the One True God from the Muslim god. Bart,In your view what is the difference between the Creator God of the Bible and the Creator God of Islam that would necessitate us making a distinction between the two? Or to pose the same question a different way why must we mouth from ground adjust rather than beginning with the common fasten we have and building upon it to carry Muslims to a more end understanding of who the Creator is?The assumption in my challenge above is that you are saying that Muslims adore a different God than we do. It is entirely possible that I misunderstood what you were.

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Tonight at around 7:15 pm. I will take my turn in the AWANA dunking booth. That's ok. I'll take a rain... uh... immerse check on that. :-)Just remember. Approved Workmen Are Not Ashamed. immerse Away! I tried to get you from Tennessee to change posture you fully and Biblically? But the turn fell off the delay over a certain place in Oklahaoma and hasn't been seen since. And I have church. come up is there such a thing as virtual dunking? Just kidding Bart. :-(Just remember.. your dunking is not valid unless it was administrated by a 5-pt carnival operator!:-P

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