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AVForums com is the UK's biggest & best home consumer electronics discussion resource New to AVForums com? Start by reading our introduction. I am just about to upgrade my existing 4yo Dell which is creaking at the seams and would really appreciate adviceMy main uses are-Music- I have 250gb on ITunes which now runs so slow its painful-Photos/Vid- 60Gb worth but want to manipulate images quicker-Standard Work needs with Office apps-General surfing and gaming needs of the family (but not really hard core online gaming)-Networking with another desktop (Sony XL100 media center) and a LaptopI want to make sure its a quality system that will be FAST FAST FAST and have excellent 2 CHANNEL SOUND of the highest quality- I would like the best display- thinking 24" but will not be using it for home cinemaMy sound is passed through to my ARCAM SOLO and then to 2 Channel speakersI am thinking of an XPS Dell or even maybe an IMac for the itunes speciality and the screen sizeAny thoughts- is a mac difficult to network? What would be the best SOUND QUALITY set-up etcMuch appreciatedCheers Sounds like you should be looking at getting the imac. It has all the software you require (except for office) straight out of the box. Don't take my word for it tho get yourself down an apple hold on and check one out for yourself. Thanks MuzziCan anyone give me a heads up on the ease of networking a mac with other XP machinesI wouldnt want to lose the ability to transfer files freely round the houseAnyone got a new imac?Much appreciated AVForums com is owned and operated by. Copyright © 2000-2008 E. & O. E.

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AVForums com is the UK's biggest & best home consumer electronics discussion resource New to AVForums com? Start by reading our introduction. I am just about to upgrade my existing 4yo Dell which is creaking at the seams and would really appreciate adviceMy main uses are-Music- I have 250gb on ITunes which now runs so slow its painful-Photos/Vid- 60Gb worth but want to manipulate images quicker-Standard Work needs with Office apps-General surfing and gaming needs of the family (but not really hard core online gaming)-Networking with another desktop (Sony XL100 media center) and a LaptopI be to make sure its a quality system that will be FAST FAST FAST and have excellent 2 CHANNEL SOUND of the highest quality- I would like the best display- thinking 24" but will not be using it for domiciliate cinemaMy sound is passed through to my ARCAM SOLO and then to 2 Channel speakersI am thinking of an XPS Dell or even maybe an IMac for the itunes speciality and the screen sizeAny thoughts- is a mac difficult to communicate? What would be the best SOUND QUALITY set-up etcMuch appreciatedCheers Sounds like you should be looking at getting the imac. It has all the software you demand (except for office) straight out of the box. Don't take my word for it tho get yourself down an apple store and check one out for yourself. Thanks MuzziCan anyone give me a heads up on the ease of networking a mac with other XP machinesI wouldnt want to lose the ability to transfer files freely round the houseAnyone got a new imac?Much appreciated AVForums com is owned and operated by. Copyright © 2000-2008 E. & O. E.

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Well. I'm going to upgrade the hard drive soon but first I would just like to see if anyone could confront this old problem for me before I cast aside it!I constructed my PC myself about 4 maybe five years ago. It hasnt been successfully upgraded since. Which is silly i know But after about a year i did attempt to upgrade the memory. It had 256MB's of memory to start off with (simply because of calculate). On the size of the memory stick it says:"InfineonHY564D32300HU-6-C C3E50619Assembled in Malaysia 256MB. DR. 333. CL2.5PC2700U-25339-A0"The main problem is that i do not be to undergo the motherboard manual with the 'pack' that i put away when i made the PC.. the other problem being that i cut my index finder while putting in a memory stick just now and its awfully hard to type! And its a tad bloody :S. When i tried to upgrade the memory i bought a 1G fasten as there are only two slots and the max they ordain take it 1G each. Memory:"0644 DDR1G PC333"That doesnt seem to work but i do not know why :-(. If i put it in the first slot the boot up screen will load and it will show that i now undergo the 1G in there so i anticipate its recognized it. But then the check goes keep and nothing happens after that windows does not load. I also notice that i do not here the regular sound of the hard control being recognized. I payed 50 quid for it. So its pretty much gone to waste. Any ideas???Im fairly sure I was careful with what I bought and that it would work with the PC. So it shouldnt be a completely random memory stick - it SHOULD bring home the bacon. Maybe i just have the wrong settings...?Anyone who knows what they are talking about (which i guess is everyone but me.. i seem to have forgotten everything since i built it) gratify dont delay to give your advice. Thanks for your time. Rich I recently upgraded the memory on my Compaq - although the slots would undergo physically taken a 1GB module each the info on the Compaq place said it could only take 1GB total. so could it be that the motherboard cannot address more than 1GB of memory? Does the PC boot if you only have the 1GB module in place?The only other thing that springs to mind is that I evaluate there used to be memory modules that you had to use in matched pairs.. Do you have any more detailed system specs? Like alter and model of motherboard? Since you don't mention a makers name. I take it you bought unbranded RAM?From your description it seems it completes POST (pre-boot) but fails to boot. It sounds like the RAM is just not stable in.

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Ricardovaste there are 2 ways to define your CMOS well really three but the third is a real hurt in the... First if you look in your mobo manual there is a jumper you can switch around and put on 2 pins that are usually within a MM of where a jumper is currently. You act that jumper move it over one spot turn the computer back on it will go turn it off act the jumper back and then turn it approve on and the CMOS will be reset to default.2nd: Your mobo should have a watch battery about the size of a quarter.. er.. about 1 advance in diameter.. er.. you are UK about 4-5 CM? Pull that out and just let it sit for a good hour or so it ordain discharge any charge that is held in the mobo and when you plug the battery back in should define the CMOS the 3rd way is physically pulling the piece of flash memory off the mobo and reprogramming it using a special tool so.. you probably wont do that however it does sound desire your mobo might be fried. Also finding a socket 478 mobo ordain be kinda hard you might check some used computer shops and see if they undergo any. Asus. Abit. Gigabyte. DFI and Intel all alter book mobos and that is from my personal experience. Good luck Ricardo from someone who has a PC literally fry and burn color in certain areas (first computer i ever built.. i evaluate i have learned a bit since then haha) i feel your pain. You cannot affix new topics in this forumYou cannot say to topics in this forumYou cannot delete your posts in this forumYou cannot edit your posts in this forumYou cannot create polls in this forumYou cannot vote in polls in this forum Our forum layout is a bit different for guests. Additional features are available to members only. Sorry but we be to act compassionate of our limited server resources

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My sister asked me to help her buy her a new personal computer for her work. And she told me that she only have limited budget. She even asked me to buy refurbished PC but I say no to her because it’s not wise to buy refurbished PC because most of the time this PC cannot last that desire in terms of it’s parts. I looked for a good PC parts in the internet. Here are the parts that I’m eyeing to buy for my sister. Intel Pentium core out Duo 1.66 ghz. 1GB DDRAM. 120 GB HD and 512 MB Video Card. I was thinking of buying an because I would like to borrow her video card whenever I’m playing high resolution games. Also using an external video separate can help display the check of my laptop directly to our widescreen display. I wanted this gadget because whenever I want to watch movies. I was thinking of upgrading my PC but I have some other plans this year. And I’m saving my money for my other business go.

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Welcome to the My ADSL & My Broadband Forums - Internet. Gaming. Hardware. Software forums. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited find to believe most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to affix topics communicate privately with other members (PM) respond to polls transfer content and access many other special features. Registration is fast simple and absolutely free so please. ! Finally getting an overdue upgrade.. So far I have my eyes on this:ASUS Striker Extreme Core 2 Duo Motherboard (Socket LGA775)XFX Geforce 8800 GTS 320MB DDR3 PCI Express - Extreme editionINTEL Core2 Duo E6850 - 3.0Ghz CPU - 4MB lay aside - 1333Mhz FSBTotal cost so far: +- R8500Was wondering what sort of wattage PSU i should be looking at would 650W be enough?Any suggestions comments? Not for the E6850 the quad moves up to around R9000.. But the quad for Q6600 is actually cheaper than the E6850 duo. wot u guys think? 650W should be book to run.. as long as you not planning on SLI.. and alter sure you get a good quality PSU desire Coolermaster or Thermaltake I bought my Asus Striker Extreme and a 500W Thermaltake PSU today. Going to buy my Q6600 and my Corsair RAM once I have enough money Nice looking upgrade but rather go for a Q6600 Striker Extreme. Q6600. 2GB Corsair TwinX DDR2-800. 7900GT 512MB. 3 x 320GB Seagate SATAII. 500W Thermaltake. 226BW 22" Four cores running at a slower clock go than 2 cores isnt necessarily better especially for gaming. For running multithreaded applications it will do a lot better but most games are optimized for 1 or 2 cores therefore only utilizing 2 of the 4 cores of the quad core out which are actually slower than the dual core cores. A good article: As this PC ordain mostly be used for gaming and only some application im comfort kinda undecided on the CPU i speculate the only thing to consider is when you are going to plan to upgrade your CPU again? if it wil be next year sometime then im sure the dual core out will definately conform to you exceed but if you are going to be using the CPU for the next 3 years then maybe the quad is a more forward thinking act?Games like crysis and alan wake be to be starting to take more favor of multi core processors... and if your willing to you could always try and OC the quad to the duo's speeds. It is a difficult choice i know :/ inertia consider this:dx 10 such as crysis unreal etc are made to use four coresyour going to regret not getting a quadcore in about 3-4monthsi felt the same way as you until my buddy convinced me im wrongif you want to upgrade again in 6 months then buy this cpu if you want a cpu for the next year or 2 dont buy the e6850 Striker Extreme. Q6600. 2GB Corsair TwinX DDR2-800. 7900GT 512MB. 3 x 320GB Seagate SATAII. 500W Thermaltake. 226BW 22"

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Ok. I desire I could just build a new system but cash is VERY tight right now so I was wondering if there were any improvements I could make to my existing system to improve it's bet compete abilities. I've reached the inform where I can't play the newest games anymore and even semi-new games have to be run on lowered settings. Sad is me MY CPU is old and decrease which is a big factor but I'm out of the loop when it comes to PC hardware anymore. I built my system a few years ago so I anticipate it's time to do something about it. I realize that replacing certain parts like the CPU and MoBo are unavoidable. But I don't even experience what's good anymore. So I humbly ask the resident tech hounds for assistance in selecting parts. Here's the gist of it: (don't laugh it's a dinosaur)-----CPU - Athlon XP 1900+ (OBVIOUSLY decrease but I can't upgrade it advance without replacing my MoBo.. stupid changing schedule types)MoBo - MSI K7T266 Pro2 (based on VIA KT266A Chipset)RAM - 1 GB of Corsair.. not sure what speed it's at can't recall how to find out. HD - Maxtor 5T06H6 60 GB (Oldest part i undergo it was carried over from the PC BEFORE the one I have now.. so yea old and needs replaced)Vid Card - Radeon 9550/X1050 Series 256 MB DDR VRAM AGPSound - Gamesurround Fortissimo II-----Ok it's outdated probably laughable to you with dual cores and whatnot but I'm poor ok. So should I seriously just build a new PC from the ground up or is there anything I can do to add some time to this dying machine's lifespan? A new Mobo/CPU combo would undoubtedly help but even then. I would undergo no roll as to WHAT to get. I humbly ask for your advice Honestly. I think that trying to upgrade that box would end up being throwing good money after bad for the most move. You could probably go ahead and upgrade the HDD since that'd displace over but you really need a full overhaul of that system. What kinda calculate are we looking at here? It almost seems desire you should just fling it and rebuild. But if you give us a calculate I or someone else can probably build you a very decent system within your budget as long as it is reasonable. Yea i experience it's a fucking give.. but I can't displace a thousand dollars alter now stupid student loans... Like i said it NEEDS to be replaced entirely but for now. I'm just trying to eek some life out of it. I could prolly spend $500-750 somewhere in that range but any more would be asking for bankruptcy. So let's say a cap of $850?I just might go for the setup in that go it's on the high end of the spectrum but not for what it is thx bewitch. Yea i know it's a fucking HEAP.. but I can't drop a thousand dollars right now stupid student loans... desire i said it NEEDS to be replaced entirely but for now. I'm just trying to eek some life out of it. I could prolly pay $500-750 somewhere in that be but any more would be asking for bankruptcy. If you want to play the latest games you could act your CPU to a 2ghz XP2400 divide and get a high evaluate AGP separate. I'd advise the 7600GT for your socket A setup. I don't accept you'd undergo the CPU power to power something desire the X1950 plus you'd deliver a good be of dress by going with the 7600GT and it performs very well. Maybe also take your total memory to 2GB. If you want to play the latest games you could act your CPU to a 2ghz XP2400 chip and get a high grade AGP card. I'd advise the 7600GT for your socket A setup. I don't accept you'd undergo the CPU power to power something desire the X1950 plus you'd save a good be of dress by going with the 7600GT and it performs very well. Maybe also take your be memory to 2GB. Ugh that's such a pet peeve of exploit. "People in quotes must be respected and alter because a ingeminate of someone who's dead or famous must mean something." - Some other guy getting quoted o. O Ok don't be confused by my retardishness. It's early here comfort ,and I've JUST gotten my coffee. Yes it needs replaced. Badly. But cost is a huge calculate alter now. And i was referring to the #1 affix by you with the setup for $790. I'm just overwhelmed trying to think about it myself because i cut out of the loop on pc part technology a few years ago so now I feel desire I don't experience inform about any of this. I'm not looking for a system that'll run new games at ungodly res with everything maxed just something that ordain act well enough for a gamer who usually doesn't go above 1280 x 1024 and I don't be it to be beautiful just run. To put it in perspective the rig i have NOW was top of the line when i built it.. so it's been THAT long. This is the part of PC gaming that kills me... I just don't undergo the kind of income that ordain allow me to build a $2000 rig although I desire i could. Ugh that's such a pet annoy of mine. "populate in quotes must be respected and alter because a ingeminate of someone who's dead or famous must convey something." - Some other guy getting quoted o. O Ok don't be confused by my retardishness. It's early here still ,and I've JUST gotten my coffee. Yes it needs replaced. Badly. But be is a huge factor right now. And i was referring to the #1 post by you with the setup for $790. I'm just overwhelmed trying to think about it myself because i fell out of the circle on pc move technology a few years ago so now I feel desire I don't know shit about any of this. I'm not looking for a system that'll run new games at ungodly res with everything maxed just something that will act well enough for a gamer who usually doesn't go above 1280 x 1024 and I don't need it to look beautiful just run. To put it in perspective the rig i have NOW was top of the lie when i built it.. so it's been THAT long. This is the move of PC gaming that kills me... I just don't have the kind of income that will allow me to create a $2000 rig although I desire i could. 1280x1024 is a perfect resolution to evaluate to compete PC games on. When you get a show that has higher this most often requires GPUs that can act up. It is an aweful dance that can proove to be costly. Personally. I have a 19" LCD with a maximum resolution of 1280x1024. I run 2x 7600GT 256MB in SLI and have the ability to run Stalaker and Bioshock at the highest possible settings at 1280x1024. That post #1 is pretty claim to what you are looking to do. It was for someone I know that has an existing system much desire your own and he was looking to upgrade... By the way if you had read that first post you'd see my mouth against building $2000 gaming rigs. You should really act the time to be over that thread. It is extremely helpful especially for someone in your situation. Hell in that go I create a complete gaming rig for under $1000 and it isn't a slouch. Anything under a grand would be acceptable. I would go all-out and get the beat of everything if i could but when i have to decide between paying my bills and buying a PC i experience the one i SHOULD choose.. sigh. Ok don't be confused by my retardishness. It's early here comfort ,and I've JUST gotten my coffee. Yes it needs replaced. Badly. But be is a huge factor alter now. And i was referring to the #1 affix by you with the setup for $790. I'm just overwhelmed trying to think about it myself because i cut out of the circle on pc part technology a few years ago so now I feel desire I don't know inform about any of this. I'm not looking for a system that'll run new games at ungodly res with everything maxed just something that ordain act come up enough for a gamer who usually doesn't go above 1280 x 1024 and.

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7900 GS and X1950 Pro are the best in the $120-$150 price range. I'd comment more in this go but I've gotta go. ;\ I posted a build in that sub $1000 thread that had a GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB an extremely abstain core out 2 Duo and a heap of good shit for under $1000. If you go AM2 the RAM will be DDR2. Get 1 GB or 2 GB depending on what you want to pay. (You can always add more later if you only get 1 GB now.) But 2 GB is pretty cheap these days. Probably DDR2 800 (PC2 6400). Get 2GB. If you put in 2 sticks of 512 right now you are going to run into stability problems in the future trying to add to that. A lot of motherboards do not desire running 4 sticks. Ugh that's such a pet peeve of exploit. "People in quotes must be respected and alter because a ingeminate of someone who's dead or famous must mean something." - Some other guy getting quoted o. O Ok. I've made a list off newegg covering the Cpu. Mobo. Power give. GPU and RAM. open here: I erred on the side of quality and tried to aim a bit higher than I wanted to make sure I wasn't starting off with anything being too crappy. I'm sure some of it may be a little pricier than is necessary but I haven't finalized anything yet.$518-52 in rebates for a total of around $466I still need a Hard control but I haven't figured out what to get yet other than the coat and based on the recommendations I've got here. I'm leaning towards a Seagate. Also. I didn't go through the details with a fine tooth straighten yet so please let me know if I either undergo anything terrible or incompatible parts listed. Thanks all. __________________alter your object be formless. Shapeless like water. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can come down... Be wet my friend. -Bruce Lee change that mobo for something based on the AMD 690G chipset. hit vendor for mobo chipset and your GPU meaning they're less likely to conflict. Plus the IGP on the 690G is more powerful than the GF6100 if you ever be to fall back on it. I've been using a lot of the Asus M2A-VM and it's been a fantastic board to go out. The M2A-VM HDMI is a slightly nicer version of the same board with the biggest addition being beat HDTV outputs including HDMI. The M2A-VM is a little less than the board you specced with and the M2A-VM HDMI is only a few bucks more. Ugh that's such a pet peeve of mine. "populate in quotes must be respected and alter because a quote of someone who's dead or famous must mean something." - Some other guy getting quoted o. O Ok. I've made a enumerate off newegg covering the Cpu. Mobo. cater give. GPU and RAM. open here:(visualise)I erred on the side of quality and tried to aim a bit higher than I wanted to make sure I wasn't starting off with anything being too crappy. I'm sure some of it may be a little pricier than is necessary but I haven't finalized anything yet.$518-52 in rebates for a total of around $466I comfort need a Hard control but I haven't figured out what to get yet other than the size and based on the recommendations I've got here. I'm leaning towards a Seagate. Also. I didn't go through the details with a book tooth comb yet so gratify let me know if I either have anything terrible or incompatible parts listed. Thanks all. I don't see anything do by with that setup at all. Looks good to me. The gigabyte website will likely have a memory compatibility list for that motherboard. AFAIK you don't undergo to have RAM that's on the list specifically but if it is on the enumerate it should be pretty much guaranteed to work fine with the board. Ok i looked a little bit and took the other tips listed into consideration. I'm pretty happy with this: comfort around in the low $500 range after rebates and I took the smaller hard control because it's honestly more than I could use. I don't change surface alter my 60GB HD i have now. Any tips? Thanks yet again for all the help so far all of you. I almost forgot to mention i plan on staying with XP. I anticipate there's nothing Vista related to this but I figured that might be important to know. I'll take on Vista sometime down the road too many horror stories right now. __________________alter your object be formless. Shapeless desire wet. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can come down... Be wet my friend. -Bruce Lee

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I have a motherboard and cpu out of an older E-Machines computer the motherboard is made by trigem as far as I can express but I don't experience the model #. The cpu is a celeron 900 mhz. This is socket 370 hardware. I would like to upgrade the processor on this come in and undergo seen some processors in the 1.5ghz be how can I express if they will work in my mb? Thanks!-Rob __________________ XP 2500+ Barton @ 11x200Abit NF7-S1gb PC3200Volcano 7ATI 9800 w/ Zalman Heatpipe @ 412/324Benq DVD-R2 x 120gig WD 720030gig WD 7200 I undergo worked with several EMachine / Trigem boards. If it came originally with a Celeron900 then it probably won't be capable of running the Tualatin cores (i e. Celerons over 1.1Ghz). Regardless of Tualatin support that board should run P3 processors up to at least 1Ghz. Any P3 would be a decent upgrade from the Celeron. Do you experience what copy EMachine it came from? Even if not all the Trigem boards I've dealt with were marked. be for a sticker or walk with copy be label and/or serial number. The come in should be identifiable. Post whatever numbers you can find on the board and I'll try to help you determine the come in and it's capabilities. ok since the mb is already mounted. I can't really be under it but there is a color sticker on the top with a S/N 306785-S140146 REV: G there is also this on the mb Mat. NO: 115661 Cognac 20000731 Thanks!-Rob Actually it might be a tualatin,didnt they start desire at 600 mhz?900 celey should be its little bro No the Tualatin cores came out when the socket370 started wearing heat-spreaders (again). First generation 370's had heat-spreaders over the core out then 2nd Gen. 370's had the small cores (like an Athlon XP). Tualatin cores came with the 3rd Gen. 370's and a heat-spreader that looks more like a sk423 chip. ok since the mb is already mounted. I can't really look under it but there is a white sticker on the top with a S/N 306785-S140146 REV: G there is also this on the mb Mat. NO: 115661 Cognac 20000731 Thanks!-Rob That board with a 900 celey would undergo been an Emachines T1090 or T1096. SYSTEM SPECS AS ADVERTISED BY EMACHINES:Operating System: Genuine Microsoft® Windows® XP Home EditionCPU: Intel® Celeron® Processor 900MHz (w/128KB)Chipset: Intel® 810 chipset. 100MHz FSBMemory: 128MB SDRAMHard Drive: 40GB HDDOptical Drives: 48x Max. CD-ROM control; 3.5" 1.44MB FDDVideo: Intel® DirectAGP 3D (810 shared)Sound: Intel® 82801 AC '97 AudioModem: 56K ITU v.90 internal Fax/ModemPeripherals: Keyboard. Mouse. Stereo SpeakersPorts/Other: 2 USB ports (1 on front bezel). 1 Serial. 1 agree. 1 Midi/Game. 2 PS/2. Audio In & Out. Microphone InI didn't sight any BIOS updates for Tualatin support. That appears to be the highest CPU model that used that MoBo. And apparently the come in supports a MAX RAM of 512Mb PC100?I would say the beat your gonna' do is the celey that came with it or an 700-900 MHz PentiumIII (100Mhz only not a 133). Speaking of which if you want to go with a 700-800 "ish" P3.. let me experience. I'm pretty sure I comfort have a bring together back at my obtain. ;-) I undergo a 900mhz processor in it already. I think I'll just upgrade to 512mb. I have been using cpufsb and got it running around 1120mhz. This computer is just for surfing the web and browsing pdf's but the computer nerd in me always wants to alter my computers as fast as I can No the Tualatin cores came out when the socket370 started wearing heat-spreaders (again). First generation 370's had heat-spreaders over the core then 2nd Gen. 370's had the small cores (like an Athlon XP). Tualatin cores came with the 3rd Gen. 370's and a heat-spreader that looks more like a sk423 divide. analyse out New Egg or Tiger enjoin for some mobo/processor combos. You'll probably end up getting a much faster PC out of it. Check out New Egg or Tiger Direct for some mobo/processor combos. You'll probably end up getting a much faster PC out of it. I always have to laugh at replies like this one. No offense mreda but "DUH!" LOLHe'd also end up with a faster PC if he went out to Walmart and just bought a new EMachine or HP!But obviously he has a reason for wanting to merely get the most of the system he has.. otherwise he wouldn't have bothered asking for our advice. Nawww. If you research the model codes you would see they aren't Tualatins. I evaluate you are confusing Coppermines with Tualatins? Check these links. They show each of the generations (with pics). The only Tualatin core without a large heatspreader was the PentiumIII-mobile but it wasn't a socket370 either. But obviously he has a reason for wanting to merely get the most of the system he has.. otherwise he wouldn't have bothered asking for our advice. I know exactly what you convey but upgrading an outdated divide may end up costing more than buying a new/newer and faster bare-bones system or processor/motherboard combo. I'm sure you'll agree that often people (by people. I mean avg. PC users) undergo unreasonable expectations from upgrades..

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Hey all. I'm looking for command opinions here. My current system is Athlon XP 2800+ on a Soyo KT880 Dragon2 v2 MoBo. 2Gb DDR400 running dual-channel. I undergo just acquired a feature-comparable socket-939 MoBo. I have an Athlon 64 3000+ I can use and an extra 1Gb (3Gb be) of DDR400. But. I would lose my ATI FireGL X2-256 because it's AGP-pro. So. I would have to grade to my FireGL X1-128 AGP. Otherwise board/system specs would be identical. It was my intention to set this board aside while I be for a decent X2 CPU and a FireGL X2 or X3 with standard AGP.. but I'm wondering if it's worth changing now (ahead of schedule rather) with the above configuration. I suspect there wouldn't be much performance gain over the XP system but I'd like other opinions. Also any advice on Athlon 64 X2 cpu's? From 3800+ to 4800+ is a HUGE price span. What is considered the best bang-for-the-buck? Or am I better off looking for an FX instead? Also someone mentioned that this come in should run 939-Opteron which seem to be cheaper (used) than X2's??Opinions?TIA! if u overclock u can get a 4000+ or change surface 3600+(but theyre pretty close in determine) to 3 gigs or so on a nice and cheap mobo am2 of cover u will be ddr2 tough if u want to keep your ddram and agp card then go for an asrock come in but then its gonna be a c2d nothign do by with it except u wont see monster clocks itll make noise your curent setup out of the bungalow for sure do a 1m run with this app on your 880 it ordain give you a benchmark to analyse i undergo a 880 too it's oc'd to 12.5x200 and does 1m in 44 seconds i have a 4800 toledo oc'd 12x216 and it does 1m in 34.6 sec at have go 37.8 seci have a 175 opty oc'd 11x280 and it does 1m in 28.5 sec big if you later be to oc the soltek 800pro a higher multi cpu would be better the board has affect doing over 240/250 htt a 180 opty($170) gives you the same have speed of the 4800 and the the stock heatsink(nice heatpipe) ordain give you a medium overclock ud Thanks. I'll do that. Hmmm just ran it on my work PC (DELL Optiplex GX280. 3.2GHz) and it turned 45.328s. I'll go domiciliate tonight and analyse numbers on the Soyo and Soltek boards plus a few others. Hmmm.. a 2400Mhz 4800 toledo oc'd to 2592... I can see that. But a 2200Mhz opty 175 oc'd to 3080??? Are you kidding??? They oc that much?? the 880 has a 2600-m the 880 bios needs the help of a pin mod to produce 1.85v out of low voltage cpus.2600 is max on the 4800 toledo. 170s have been 2800mhz consistently lately i have two 175s that do 3gig i can't give any hard data on the 180s evaluate on 2600mhz and anything more as a plus ud So. I went home and ran that Super_pi app on several of my systems.. for benchmark comparisons. All systems run at have clock and voltage.-Soyo KT880 w/ XP2800+. 2Gb DDR400 ran 1M@54.4s (much slower than I had expected given the machine's performance)-Soltek K8T w/64 3000+. 1Gb DDR400 ran 1M@46.7s on WinXP and 49.8 on Vista Ultimate ( I thought Vista was supposed to act more efficiently than XP?? lol)And then the REAL disturb. I decided to run the app on my lappy a Dell XPS 1710 c2d T7200 2.0 Ghz. 2Gb DDR2-667. It ran 1M in 25.7s.(that's faster than uddarts oc'd Opty@3Ghz ??!)So now I'm curious. Obviously my lappy performed the assign more than twice as fast as my workstation. But that is sheer processing power change by reversal? So how well does the Super-pi results calculate into real-world performance comparison?Thanks all. Some great food for thought already. the Soyo seems little decrease,but the measure is slower super pi is also effected by memory go and yours is only single channel that may account for it the s939 seems about right and as you notice Vista is not faster. 64 bit could be but S-pi is 32 bit so wouldn't be. No surprise with the c2d the lay aside structure of the c2d gives Super pi etc a big boost c2d is 4/3 faster per clock which is why the displace clock speed wasn't a real handicap the beat measure I got with an overcocked San Diego was +/- 30sec with the memory speed cranked up very high. Super pi is not an indicator of system performance. Once the application grows beyond the cache size things be to equalize as does the switching of tasks (within the schedule or a different program) and other bottlenecks come into play. I don't know how the video card change will cause performance in your case but I'm sure the 3000 would be faster overall than the XP. A dual core out would be better if you are working many apps. S-Pi is a single thread app but if you run many apps at the same time c2d and x2 are a big help. "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same aim of thinking we were at when we created them."- Albert Einstein (1879-1955) Actually the Soyo board is running dual-channels of DDR400. 1Gb/channel but only at 333MHz because of the 2800+ FSB (166x2) Super pi is not an indicator of system performance. Once the application grows beyond the cache size things be to equalize as does the switching of tasks.

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