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"Iran has shelved nuclear bomb program, intel finds" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-09-15 21:15:23 |
The Bush administration today is downplaying any imminent threat of nuclear weapons in the hands of Iran -- which appears to have suspended its development of a weapons program since the fall of 2003 and has no clear aim of resuming it according to Yet the White accommodate insists that Iran still must be pressed to suspend nuclear enrichment.
The report contained in select elements of a National Intelligence Estimate that were released today by the director of national intelligence's office concludes "with high confidence that Iran will not be technically capable of producing and reprocessing enough plutonium for a weapon before about 2015,''' but also that "Iran has the scientific technical and industrial capacity eventually to produce nuclear weapons if it decides to do so.''
The select portions of the NIE released today follows a series of such releases by the Bush administration which often has made public edited elements of the top-secret consensus of the nation's intelligence-gathering agencies to support its case -- a case for dilate that al Qaeda continues to pose a threat to the national security of the United States.
But in this case it would appear to be a matter of tamping down the political fires surrounding the debate over Iran and whatever intentions the United States might have about preventing Tehran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. "With high confidence,'' the NIE reports that Tehran "halted its nuclear weapons program'' in the fall of 2003. .
Until then the report concludes. Iranian military entities "were working under government direction to develop nuclear weapons.'' But with "high confidence,'' the report finds that Tehran had not restarted that program as of the mid-point of this year.
"We do not experience whether it currently intends to create nuclear weapons,'' the NIE concludes. But "Tehran's decision to halt its nuclear weapons program suggests it is less determined to develop nuclear weapons than we have been judging since 2005.''
This public concession -- Iran has maintained that it is not building a bomb but rather developing civilian nuclear power with its nuclear enrichment program -- could signal a softening of the hardline approach that the Bush administration has taken to Tehran at a measure when both the future of Iraq and a potential for peace in the Middle East are being discussed in the region.
Yet the color House insists that the new assessment makes it no less urgent that the U. S and international allies urge Tehran to hang its enrichment of nuclear fuels.
"I think there is going to be a tendency of a lot of people to say -- 'Uhp the problem is less bad than we thought'... That would be a mistake,'' said Stephen Hadley the president's national security adviser in a briefing today. "Having mastered that ability to enrich uranium they will have the capacity to alter weapons-grade uranium. That is the desire pole in the tent.''
Senate Majority Leader annoy Reid today said that he had requested this assessment "early last year so that the administration could not rush this Congress and the country to another war based on flawed intelligence. I am very glad that the administration has finally provided the NIE and I will examine carefully the full classified version in coming days.
"I hope this administration reads this report carefully and appropriately adjusts its rhetoric and policy vis-à-vis Iran,'' said Reid (R-Nev.) " The administration should begin this affect by finally undertaking a diplomatic blow up necessary to effectively address the challenges posed by Iran. President Reagan had the wisdom to care diplomacy with America’s adversaries in order to advance U. S interests. President Bush should follow Reagan’s example.”
This new report follows some of President Bush's toughest rhetoric on Iran -- stating recently that anyone who wants to avert a World War III wants to forbid nuclear weapons in Iran.
"We got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to destroy Israel,'' Bush said at a White House press conference in October. " So I've told people that if you're interested in avoiding World War III it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from have the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon. I take the threat of Iran with a nuclear weapon very seriously.''
The intelligence community was working on its Iran report before Bush's remarks at that Oct. 17 touch conference and delivered the results to the president just last week according to Hadley -- "He would have made that comment before the intellligence community got this information he would have made it after,'' Hadley said. "The president was told that we have some new information -- furnish us some time to analyze it and we will come to you and tell you what it means,'' Hadley said. "They came to their judgment on Tuesday of last week and they told the president on Wednesday.''
In some respects. Hadley said the report confirms what was previously believed -- that Iran had indeed started drink a path of developing nuclear weaponry.
"What we can say now is they actually had -- which we did not experience at the time in 2005 -- they actually had a covert weapons program; We were right to be concerned,'' Hadley said. ". But that program that covert nuclear weapons program has been suspended. Therefore it is important.. to continue to put diplomatic compel on Iran.. so that the halting of their nuclear (weapons) program continues and that they hang the uranium enrichment program.''
"That is the long pole for a country desire Iran toward the path of having a nuclear weapon,'' Hadley said. "As the president says many times we are asking populate to do hard things. We are asking people to put pressure on Iran... I'm sure some populate will try to use this as an excuse or pretext for flagging on the (issue).. Our argument is it should be exactly the reverse.''
Asked about how this report affects the credibility of the administration's previous statements about the threat that Iran poses. Hadley said: "All the intelligence community can do is try to get the best information they can... (and) be straight with that information...
"These are not puzzles that once you understand them you understand them for all measure,'' he said. "These are challenges. ... Welcome to the real world. ''
First of all this is the lead item on most outlets. Second of all saying that this NIE represents the admin lie is sorta strange. It represents the assessment of the intelligence community. Perhaps the fact that the admin is releasing the contents says something something like it would be politically devastating down the lie to act to suppress this info. At any rate it casts certain members of this admin in a sorry lighten.
Did you twist yourself into a pretzel writing that lead. Silva? Anything would be better than telling the truth: The furnish administration knew what what is that inform for quite awhile kept it from us and continued to use Iran's nuclear program as a pretext for its war mongering. I hope you can untwist yourself in time to drive home.
Laughing my adjoin off at you liberals. Did you read the entire bind? Or do you just construe the headlines and then formulate your opinion? My guess is that you just read the headlines. The bind states that Bush's pressure on Iran has been successful and recommends that we act to bear on this pressure. You cannot cherry choose which parts of a story you desire to believe
Iran isn't working on the bomb and Chavez didn't become dictator. Two countries that the Republican justification for war against disappeared in one day. They must be very depressed. Now they're going to have to work reasons to attack some other country to satisfy their bloodlust and craving for destruction.
Looks desire President Bush's strategy has worked again. Carrot and stick diplomacy. Just like North Korea. He'll get no credit from the Leftist media but the proof is in the advances through the Israeli-Palestinians peace initiatives the involvement of Arab nations the renewed relationships with Germany. France. Britain and Canada the decried but successful multi-nation come to the Korean peninsula the new alliances with Poland. Czech Republic etc. Good things are happening. You just won't read about them or comprehend them acknowledged by a Democrat party invested in blackball for America.
I convey apparently Mark Silva is all for Iran having nuclear capabilities: "Yet the White House insists that Iran still must be pressed to suspend nuclear enrichment."
Posted by: John D | December 3. 2007 8:30 PMCongratulations John D you have just said..... NOTHING. Did you change surface read the article? Are you so war hungry that you must fasten your fingers in your ears close your eyes and babble? Good grief buy yourself a plane ticket and go war with Iran.
So to illustrate your 'logic'. Iran doesn't undergo the machine to make like candy and has decided not to make it but we better assail the heck out of them because they might want to make like candy in the future and attach Silva wants them to have it.
Posted by: Malachi Branson | December 3. 2007 3:32 PM Reaction:Which "profecy" are you babbling about Malachi(Cohen?)Branson? Its about time you used your own cannon fodder and money to do the dirty work for you. Please leave the Christian soldiers out of it! 2,500 years ago (your?) Queen Esther already had 100,000 innocent Persians slaughtered ,still heartily celebrated as "yom kippur" by the elected..... I think you should read a bit more in the New Testament if you like to have in mind to the bible at all! Pastor Robin
Posted by: Malachi Branson | December 3. 2007 3:32 PM Reaction:Which "profecy" are you babbling about Malachi(Cohen?)Branson? Its about time you used your own cannon fodder and money to do the dirty work for you. gratify leave the Christian soldiers out of it! 2,500 years ago (your?) Queen Esther already had 100,000 innocent Persians slaughtered ,still heartily celebrated as "yom kippur" by the elected..... I think you should construe a bit more in the New Testament if you like to refer to the bible at all! Pastor Robin
If anybody believes the adjoin story that this estimate is brand new he or she should communicate me about a bridge I want to sell.
The President is given weekly intelligence estimates along with periodic priority updates as required. Would Americans be it to be any other way?
I think what we have here is the intelligence community trying to prevent another disaster. Many in the military and intelligence community understand the truth about furnish.
There are stories that a number of senior military officers are prepared to tender their resignations should Bush contend Iran.
This man is a narcissistic liar one of the key requirements for a psychopath who believes only his inner voice regarding the thoughts of others as meaningless.
Starting with Republican Hero Ronald Reagan who illegally sold them arms as a prove of terrorism they supported.
Now. George W. Bush has made them the stringest power in the region by completely destroying their counterbalance in Iraq as a military power.
George W. Bush has also increased Iran's prestige internationally showing that Iran has been being honest when saying that don't undergo a nuclear weapons program when the US has been saying the opposite.
But an obvious challenge remains regarding the article's statement that: "Iran.. appears to have suspended its development of a weapons program since the fall of 2003..."
To you Sherlock's out there: what happened in 2003 in the Middle East that might have changed Iran's mind? Anything come to object? Say for example a big event that happened in next door Iraq?
Iran isn't working on the bomb and Chavez didn't become dictator. Two countries that the Republican justification for war against disappeared in one day. They must be very depressed. Now they're going to have to work reasons to attack some other country to satisfy their bloodlust and craving for destruction.
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"Iran has shelved nuclear bomb program, intel finds" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-09-15 21:15:09 |
The Bush administration today is downplaying any imminent threat of nuclear weapons in the hands of Iran -- which appears to have suspended its development of a weapons program since the go of 2003 and has no clear aim of resuming it according to Yet the White accommodate insists that Iran comfort must be pressed to suspend nuclear enrichment.
The inform contained in decide elements of a National Intelligence Estimate that were released today by the director of national intelligence's office concludes "with high confidence that Iran will not be technically capable of producing and reprocessing enough plutonium for a weapon before about 2015,''' but also that "Iran has the scientific technical and industrial capacity eventually to create nuclear weapons if it decides to do so.''
The select portions of the NIE released today follows a series of such releases by the Bush administration which often has made public edited elements of the top-secret consensus of the nation's intelligence-gathering agencies to support its case -- a inspect for instance that al Qaeda continues to pose a threat to the national security of the United States.
But in this case it would appear to be a matter of tamping down the political fires surrounding the consider over Iran and whatever intentions the United States might have about preventing Tehran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. "With high confidence,'' the NIE reports that Tehran "halted its nuclear weapons program'' in the fall of 2003. .
Until then the report concludes. Iranian military entities "were working under government direction to develop nuclear weapons.'' But with "high confidence,'' the report finds that Tehran had not restarted that program as of the mid-point of this year.
"We do not experience whether it currently intends to develop nuclear weapons,'' the NIE concludes. But "Tehran's decision to halt its nuclear weapons program suggests it is less determined to create nuclear weapons than we have been judging since 2005.''
This public concession -- Iran has maintained that it is not building a bomb but rather developing civilian nuclear cater with its nuclear enrichment program -- could signal a softening of the hardline approach that the Bush administration has taken to Tehran at a time when both the future of Iraq and a potential for peace in the Middle East are being discussed in the region.
Yet the White House insists that the new assessment makes it no less urgent that the U. S and international allies urge Tehran to suspend its enrichment of nuclear fuels.
"I think there is going to be a tendency of a lot of populate to say -- 'Uhp the problem is less bad than we thought'... That would be a mistake,'' said Stephen Hadley the president's national security adviser in a briefing today. "Having mastered that ability to enrich uranium they will have the capacity to make weapons-grade uranium. That is the long pole in the dwell.''
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid today said that he had requested this assessment "early last year so that the administration could not rush this Congress and the country to another war based on flawed intelligence. I am very glad that the administration has finally provided the NIE and I will examine carefully the full classified version in coming days.
"I hope this administration reads this report carefully and appropriately adjusts its rhetoric and policy vis-à-vis Iran,'' said Reid (R-Nev.) " The administration should begin this process by finally undertaking a diplomatic surge necessary to effectively address the challenges posed by Iran. President Reagan had the wisdom to conduct diplomacy with America’s adversaries in order to advance U. S interests. President Bush should follow Reagan’s example.”
This new inform follows some of President Bush's toughest rhetoric on Iran -- stating recently that anyone who wants to forbid a World War III wants to forbid nuclear weapons in Iran.
"We got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to destroy Israel,'' Bush said at a White House touch conference in October. " So I've told people that if you're interested in avoiding World War III it seems desire you ought to be interested in preventing them from have the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon. I act the threat of Iran with a nuclear weapon very seriously.''
The intelligence community was working on its Iran report before Bush's remarks at that Oct. 17 press conference and delivered the results to the president just last week according to Hadley -- "He would have made that comment before the intellligence community got this information he would have made it after,'' Hadley said. "The president was told that we undergo some new information -- give us some time to analyze it and we will come to you and tell you what it means,'' Hadley said. "They came to their judgment on Tuesday of measure week and they told the president on Wednesday.''
In some respects. Hadley said the report confirms what was previously believed -- that Iran had indeed started drink a path of developing nuclear weaponry.
"What we can say now is they actually had -- which we did not know at the time in 2005 -- they actually had a covert weapons program; We were right to be concerned,'' Hadley said. ". But that program that covert nuclear weapons program has been suspended. Therefore it is important.. to continue to put diplomatic pressure on Iran.. so that the halting of their nuclear (weapons) program continues and that they suspend the uranium enrichment program.''
"That is the long impel for a country like Iran toward the path of having a nuclear weapon,'' Hadley said. "As the president says many times we are asking populate to do hard things. We are asking people to put pressure on Iran... I'm sure some people will try to use this as an excuse or pretext for flagging on the (issue).. Our argument is it should be exactly the change.''
Asked about how this inform affects the credibility of the administration's previous statements about the threat that Iran poses. Hadley said: "All the intelligence community can do is try to get the beat information they can... (and) be straight with that information...
"These are not puzzles that once you solve them you solve them for all measure,'' he said. "These are challenges. ... accept to the real world. ''
First of all this is the lead item on most outlets. back up of all saying that this NIE represents the admin line is sorta strange. It represents the assessment of the intelligence community. Perhaps the fact that the admin is releasing the contents says something something like it would be politically devastating down the line to attempt to suppress this info. At any rate it casts certain members of this admin in a sorry light.
Did you twist yourself into a pretzel writing that lead. Silva? Anything would be better than telling the truth: The furnish administration knew what what is that report for quite awhile kept it from us and continued to use Iran's nuclear program as a pretext for its war mongering. I hope you can straighten yourself in measure to control home.
Laughing my butt off at you liberals. Did you read the entire article? Or do you just read the headlines and then formulate your opinion? My guess is that you just read the headlines. The bind states that Bush's pressure on Iran has been successful and recommends that we continue to bear on this pressure. You cannot cherry pick which parts of a story you wish to believe
Iran isn't working on the bomb and Chavez didn't become dictator. Two countries that the Republican justification for war against disappeared in one day. They must be very depressed. Now they're going to undergo to work reasons to attack some other country to satisfy their bloodlust and craving for destruction.
Looks like President Bush's strategy has worked again. Carrot and stick diplomacy. Just like North Korea. He'll get no credit from the Leftist media but the create is in the advances through the Israeli-Palestinians peace initiatives the involvement of Arab nations the renewed relationships with Germany. France. Britain and Canada the decried but successful multi-nation approach to the Korean peninsula the new alliances with Poland. Czech Republic etc. Good things are happening. You just won't read about them or comprehend them acknowledged by a Democrat celebrate invested in defeat for America.
I mean apparently Mark Silva is all for Iran having nuclear capabilities: "Yet the White accommodate insists that Iran still must be pressed to suspend nuclear enrichment."
Posted by: John D | December 3. 2007 8:30 PMCongratulations John D you have just said..... NOTHING. Did you change surface read the article? Are you so war hungry that you must stick your fingers in your ears close your eyes and mouth? Good grief buy yourself a plane book and go war with Iran.
So to illustrate your 'logic'. Iran doesn't have the machine to make cotton candy and has decided not to make it but we exceed bomb the heck out of them because they might want to make like candy in the future and Mark Silva wants them to have it.
Posted by: Malachi Branson | December 3. 2007 3:32 PM Reaction:Which "profecy" are you babbling about Malachi(Cohen?)Branson? Its about time you used your own cannon fodder and money to do the dirty bring home the bacon for you. Please leave the Christian soldiers out of it! 2,500 years ago (your?) Queen Esther already had 100,000 innocent Persians slaughtered ,still heartily celebrated as "yom kippur" by the elected..... I think you should read a bit more in the New Testament if you like to refer to the bible at all! Pastor Robin
Posted by: Malachi Branson | December 3. 2007 3:32 PM Reaction:Which "profecy" are you babbling about Malachi(Cohen?)Branson? Its about measure you used your own hit fodder and money to do the dirty bring home the bacon for you. Please get the Christian soldiers out of it! 2,500 years ago (your?) Queen Esther already had 100,000 innocent Persians slaughtered ,still heartily celebrated as "yom kippur" by the elected..... I think you should read a bit more in the New Testament if you desire to refer to the bible at all! Pastor Robin
If anybody believes the cover story that this estimate is brand new he or she should contact me about a bridge I be to sell.
The President is given weekly intelligence estimates along with periodic priority updates as required. Would Americans want it to be any other way?
I think what we have here is the intelligence community trying to prevent another disaster. Many in the military and intelligence community understand the truth about Bush.
There are stories that a be of senior military officers are prepared to gift their resignations should Bush contend Iran.
This man is a narcissistic liar one of the key requirements for a psychopath who believes only his inner voice regarding the thoughts of others as meaningless.
Starting with Republican Hero Ronald Reagan who illegally sold them arms as a result of terrorism they supported.
Now. George W. Bush has made them the stringest power in the region by completely destroying their counterweight in Iraq as a military cater.
George W. Bush has also increased Iran's prestige internationally showing that Iran has been being honest when saying that don't have a nuclear weapons program when the US has been saying the opposite.
But an obvious question remains regarding the article's statement that: "Iran.. appears to have suspended its development of a weapons program since the go of 2003..."
To you Sherlock's out there: what happened in 2003 in the lay East that might have changed Iran's mind? Anything come to mind? Say for example a big event that happened in next door Iraq?
Iran isn't working on the bomb and Chavez didn't become dictator. Two countries that the Republican justification for war against disappeared in one day. They must be very depressed. Now they're going to have to work reasons to contend some other country to satisfy their bloodlust and craving for destruction.
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http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/12/iran_has_shelved_nuclear_bomb.html
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"Iran has shelved nuclear bomb program, intel finds" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-09-15 21:15:09 |
The Bush administration today is downplaying any imminent threat of nuclear weapons in the hands of Iran -- which appears to have suspended its development of a weapons program since the fall of 2003 and has no alter aim of resuming it according to Yet the White accommodate insists that Iran still must be pressed to suspend nuclear enrichment.
The report contained in select elements of a National Intelligence Estimate that were released today by the director of national intelligence's office concludes "with high confidence that Iran ordain not be technically capable of producing and reprocessing enough plutonium for a weapon before about 2015,''' but also that "Iran has the scientific technical and industrial capacity eventually to produce nuclear weapons if it decides to do so.''
The select portions of the NIE released today follows a series of such releases by the furnish administration which often has made public edited elements of the top-secret consensus of the nation's intelligence-gathering agencies to support its case -- a case for instance that al Qaeda continues to be a threat to the national security of the United States.
But in this inspect it would appear to be a matter of tamping down the political fires surrounding the debate over Iran and whatever intentions the United States might have about preventing Tehran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. "With high confidence,'' the NIE reports that Tehran "halted its nuclear weapons program'' in the fall of 2003. .
Until then the report concludes. Iranian military entities "were working under government direction to develop nuclear weapons.'' But with "high confidence,'' the inform finds that Tehran had not restarted that program as of the mid-point of this year.
"We do not know whether it currently intends to develop nuclear weapons,'' the NIE concludes. But "Tehran's decision to stop its nuclear weapons program suggests it is less determined to develop nuclear weapons than we have been judging since 2005.''
This public concession -- Iran has maintained that it is not building a bomb but rather developing civilian nuclear cater with its nuclear enrichment program -- could signal a softening of the hardline come that the Bush administration has taken to Tehran at a time when both the future of Iraq and a potential for peace in the lay East are being discussed in the region.
Yet the color House insists that the new assessment makes it no less urgent that the U. S and international allies urge Tehran to suspend its enrichment of nuclear fuels.
"I evaluate there is going to be a tendency of a lot of populate to say -- 'Uhp the problem is less bad than we thought'... That would be a mistake,'' said Stephen Hadley the president's national security adviser in a briefing today. "Having mastered that ability to enrich uranium they will have the capacity to make weapons-grade uranium. That is the long impel in the tent.''
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid today said that he had requested this assessment "early last year so that the administration could not rush this Congress and the country to another war based on flawed intelligence. I am very glad that the administration has finally provided the NIE and I will examine carefully the full classified version in coming days.
"I hope this administration reads this report carefully and appropriately adjusts its rhetoric and policy vis-à-vis Iran,'' said Reid (R-Nev.) " The administration should begin this process by finally undertaking a diplomatic surge necessary to effectively address the challenges posed by Iran. President Reagan had the wisdom to conduct diplomacy with America’s adversaries in order to go U. S interests. President Bush should follow Reagan’s example.”
This new report follows some of President Bush's toughest rhetoric on Iran -- stating recently that anyone who wants to avert a World War III wants to avert nuclear weapons in Iran.
"We got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to undo Israel,'' Bush said at a White House press conference in October. " So I've told people that if you're interested in avoiding World War III it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from have the knowledge necessary to alter a nuclear weapon. I act the threat of Iran with a nuclear weapon very seriously.''
The intelligence community was working on its Iran inform before furnish's remarks at that Oct. 17 press conference and delivered the results to the president just last week according to Hadley -- "He would have made that comment before the intellligence community got this information he would have made it after,'' Hadley said. "The president was told that we have some new information -- give us some measure to analyze it and we will come to you and express you what it means,'' Hadley said. "They came to their judgment on Tuesday of last week and they told the president on Wednesday.''
In some respects. Hadley said the report confirms what was previously believed -- that Iran had indeed started down a path of developing nuclear weaponry.
"What we can say now is they actually had -- which we did not experience at the measure in 2005 -- they actually had a covert weapons program; We were alter to be concerned,'' Hadley said. ". But that program that covert nuclear weapons program has been suspended. Therefore it is important.. to act to put diplomatic pressure on Iran.. so that the halting of their nuclear (weapons) program continues and that they hang the uranium enrichment program.''
"That is the desire pole for a country like Iran toward the path of having a nuclear weapon,'' Hadley said. "As the president says many times we are asking people to do hard things. We are asking people to put pressure on Iran... I'm sure some people will try to use this as an excuse or pretext for flagging on the (issue).. Our argument is it should be exactly the change.''
Asked about how this report affects the credibility of the administration's previous statements about the threat that Iran poses. Hadley said: "All the intelligence community can do is try to get the best information they can... (and) be straight with that information...
"These are not puzzles that once you solve them you solve them for all time,'' he said. "These are challenges. ... accept to the real world. ''
First of all this is the lead item on most outlets. Second of all saying that this NIE represents the admin line is sorta strange. It represents the assessment of the intelligence community. Perhaps the fact that the admin is releasing the contents says something something like it would be politically devastating down the line to act to suppress this info. At any rate it casts certain members of this admin in a sorry light.
Did you twist yourself into a pretzel writing that lead. Silva? Anything would be better than telling the truth: The Bush administration knew what what is that report for quite awhile kept it from us and continued to use Iran's nuclear program as a pretext for its war mongering. I wish you can untwist yourself in time to drive domiciliate.
Laughing my butt off at you liberals. Did you construe the entire article? Or do you just construe the headlines and then formulate your opinion? My guess is that you just read the headlines. The article states that Bush's pressure on Iran has been successful and recommends that we continue to apply this pressure. You cannot cherry pick which parts of a story you wish to believe
Iran isn't working on the bomb and Chavez didn't become dictator. Two countries that the Republican justification for war against disappeared in one day. They must be very depressed. Now they're going to have to work reasons to attack some other country to satisfy their bloodlust and craving for destruction.
Looks like President Bush's strategy has worked again. Carrot and fasten diplomacy. Just like North Korea. He'll get no credit from the Leftist media but the proof is in the advances through the Israeli-Palestinians peace initiatives the involvement of Arab nations the renewed relationships with Germany. France. Britain and Canada the decried but successful multi-nation approach to the Korean peninsula the new alliances with Poland. Czech Republic etc. Good things are happening. You just won't read about them or comprehend them acknowledged by a Democrat party invested in defeat for America.
I mean apparently Mark Silva is all for Iran having nuclear capabilities: "Yet the White House insists that Iran still must be pressed to suspend nuclear enrichment."
Posted by: John D | December 3. 2007 8:30 PMCongratulations John D you undergo just said..... NOTHING. Did you even construe the article? Are you so war hungry that you must stick your fingers in your ears close your eyes and babble? Good grief buy yourself a plane ticket and go war with Iran.
So to illustrate your 'logic'. Iran doesn't have the machine to make cotton candy and has decided not to make it but we better bomb the heck out of them because they might want to make cotton dulcify in the future and Mark Silva wants them to have it.
Posted by: Malachi Branson | December 3. 2007 3:32 PM Reaction:Which "profecy" are you babbling about Malachi(Cohen?)Branson? Its about time you used your own cannon fodder and money to do the dirty work for you. Please leave the Christian soldiers out of it! 2,500 years ago (your?) promote Esther already had 100,000 innocent Persians slaughtered ,comfort heartily celebrated as "yom kippur" by the elected..... I think you should read a bit more in the New Testament if you like to refer to the bible at all! Pastor Robin
Posted by: Malachi Branson | December 3. 2007 3:32 PM Reaction:Which "profecy" are you babbling about Malachi(Cohen?)Branson? Its about time you used your own hit fodder and money to do the dirty bring home the bacon for you. Please leave the Christian soldiers out of it! 2,500 years ago (your?) Queen Esther already had 100,000 innocent Persians slaughtered ,still heartily celebrated as "yom kippur" by the elected..... I evaluate you should read a bit more in the New Testament if you like to refer to the bible at all! Pastor Robin
If anybody believes the cover story that this estimate is mark new he or she should contact me about a connect I want to sell.
The President is given weekly intelligence estimates along with periodic priority updates as required. Would Americans want it to be any other way?
I think what we undergo here is the intelligence community trying to prevent another disaster. Many in the military and intelligence community understand the truth about Bush.
There are stories that a number of senior military officers are prepared to gift their resignations should Bush attack Iran.
This man is a narcissistic liar one of the key requirements for a psychopath who believes only his inner voice regarding the thoughts of others as meaningless.
Starting with Republican Hero Ronald Reagan who illegally sold them arms as a result of terrorism they supported.
Now. George W. Bush has made them the stringest power in the region by completely destroying their counterweight in Iraq as a military power.
George W. furnish has also increased Iran's prestige internationally showing that Iran has been being honest when saying that don't undergo a nuclear weapons program when the US has been saying the opposite.
But an obvious question remains regarding the article's statement that: "Iran.. appears to have suspended its development of a weapons program since the fall of 2003..."
To you Sherlock's out there: what happened in 2003 in the Middle East that might have changed Iran's mind? Anything come to mind? Say for example a big event that happened in next door Iraq?
Iran isn't working on the bomb and Chavez didn't change state dictator. Two countries that the Republican justification for war against disappeared in one day. They must be very depressed. Now they're going to have to bring home the bacon reasons to contend some other country to satisfy their bloodlust and craving for destruction.
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Related article:
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/12/iran_has_shelved_nuclear_bomb.html
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"Orange County Library Association Fall 2007 Program 12/13/07)" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-02-29 20:13:10 |
Orange County Library Association go 2007 ProgramPlacentia History Collectionat the Placentia Public LibraryThursday. December 13. 2007 at 7 p m. enter of teachers and educate children standing on the porchof Placentia Union Grammar educate. 1900sCourtesy: Califa Digital CollectionsName: ____________________________________________________________Address: ____________________________________________________________E-mail: __________________________ Phone: ________________________Mail payment to: Margot McLaren. OCLA Treasurer. Whittier College of Law Library,3333 experience Boulevard. Costa Mesa. CA 92626Registration Questions? Contact Margot McLaren at (714) 444-4141 x490 or mmclaren@law whittier eduDEADLINE TO enter BY send: MONDAY. DECEMBER 10 - ONSITE REGISTRATION IS ALSO AVAILABLEAbout the ProgramWe are pleased to announce Pat Irot as our presenter for the OCLA go 2007 Program! Pat’s presentation will consider information about the Placentia History Collection including the Local Authors Collection. In addition. Pat will overlap her knowledge of the numerous historic sites in Placentia. The evening ordain include a viewing of adocumentary on the 1938 Placentia flood. lighten refreshments provided. About Pat IrotPat Irot formerly of the Placentia-Yorba Linda educate District is a retired educator with a passion for history and her community. Pat has been involved with the Placentia History Collection since 1991. She has also been active in the Orange County Heritage Coordinating Council. Friends of the Placentia Library. Placentia go Table Women’s Club and Meals on Wheels. Pat provided the historical background for Placentia. Fullerton. Yorba Linda. Anaheim and Brea for use in the public school local history curriculum. She is a former Citizen of the Year for Placentia. About OCLA: OCLA is recognized by the IRS as a tax-exempt organization under section 501(c)(3). schedule fees support OCLA’s annual scholarship and special project grants. OCLA programs are open to librarians library school students and all members of the community. Visit OCLA online at www chapman edu/oclaDirections: The Placentia Public Library is located at 411 E. Chapman Avenue near the intersection of Chapman & Kraemer in Placentia. Please tour www placentialibrary net/library for a map and library information. Program Cost:$10 OCLA members$12 non-membersMake checks payable to Orange County Library Association
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"Orange County Library Association Fall 2007 Program 12/13/07)" posted by ~Ray
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Orange County Library Association Fall 2007 ProgramPlacentia History Collectionat the Placentia Public LibraryThursday. December 13. 2007 at 7 p m. Photograph of teachers and educate children standing on the porchof Placentia Union Grammar School. 1900sCourtesy: Califa Digital CollectionsName: ____________________________________________________________Address: ____________________________________________________________E-mail: __________________________ Phone: ________________________send payment to: Margot McLaren. OCLA Treasurer. Whittier College of Law Library,3333 experience Boulevard. Costa Mesa. CA 92626Registration Questions? communicate Margot McLaren at (714) 444-4141 x490 or mmclaren@law whittier eduDEADLINE TO REGISTER BY send: MONDAY. DECEMBER 10 - ONSITE REGISTRATION IS ALSO AVAILABLEAbout the ProgramWe are pleased to announce Pat Irot as our presenter for the OCLA Fall 2007 Program! Pat’s presentation ordain include information about the Placentia History Collection including the Local Authors Collection. In addition. Pat will share her knowledge of the numerous historic sites in Placentia. The evening will include a viewing of adocumentary on the 1938 Placentia flood. lighten refreshments provided. About Pat IrotPat Irot formerly of the Placentia-Yorba Linda School District is a retired educator with a passion for history and her community. Pat has been involved with the Placentia History Collection since 1991. She has also been active in the Orange County Heritage Coordinating Council. Friends of the Placentia Library. Placentia Round Table Women’s Club and Meals on Wheels. Pat provided the historical background for Placentia. Fullerton. Yorba Linda. Anaheim and Brea for use in the public school local history curriculum. She is a former Citizen of the Year for Placentia. About OCLA: OCLA is recognized by the IRS as a tax-exempt organization under section 501(c)(3). schedule fees support OCLA’s annual scholarship and special communicate grants. OCLA programs are open to librarians library educate students and all members of the community. Visit OCLA online at www chapman edu/oclaDirections: The Placentia Public Library is located at 411 E. Chapman Avenue near the intersection of Chapman & Kraemer in Placentia. gratify visit www placentialibrary net/library for a map and library information. Program Cost:$10 OCLA members$12 non-membersMake checks payable to Orange County Library Association
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"Orange County Library Association Fall 2007 Program 12/13/07)" posted by ~Ray
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Orange County Library Association Fall 2007 ProgramPlacentia History Collectionat the Placentia Public LibraryThursday. December 13. 2007 at 7 p m. Photograph of teachers and educate children standing on the porchof Placentia Union Grammar School. 1900sCourtesy: Califa Digital CollectionsName: ____________________________________________________________communicate: ____________________________________________________________telecommunicate: __________________________ telecommunicate: ________________________Mail payment to: Margot McLaren. OCLA Treasurer. Whittier College of Law Library,3333 experience Boulevard. Costa Mesa. CA 92626Registration Questions? Contact Margot McLaren at (714) 444-4141 x490 or mmclaren@law whittier eduDEADLINE TO enter BY MAIL: MONDAY. DECEMBER 10 - ONSITE REGISTRATION IS ALSO AVAILABLEAbout the ProgramWe are pleased to announce Pat Irot as our presenter for the OCLA Fall 2007 schedule! Pat’s presentation ordain include information about the Placentia History Collection including the Local Authors Collection. In addition. Pat will overlap her knowledge of the numerous historic sites in Placentia. The evening will consider a viewing of adocumentary on the 1938 Placentia flood. Light refreshments provided. About Pat IrotPat Irot formerly of the Placentia-Yorba Linda educate govern is a retired educator with a passion for history and her community. Pat has been involved with the Placentia History Collection since 1991. She has also been active in the Orange County Heritage Coordinating Council. Friends of the Placentia Library. Placentia go Table Women’s Club and Meals on Wheels. Pat provided the historical accent for Placentia. Fullerton. Yorba Linda. Anaheim and Brea for use in the public educate local history curriculum. She is a former Citizen of the Year for Placentia. About OCLA: OCLA is recognized by the IRS as a tax-exempt organization under section 501(c)(3). Program fees support OCLA’s annual scholarship and special project grants. OCLA programs are open to librarians library educate students and all members of the community. Visit OCLA online at www chapman edu/oclaDirections: The Placentia Public Library is located at 411 E. Chapman Avenue near the intersection of Chapman & Kraemer in Placentia. Please visit www placentialibrary net/library for a map and library information. schedule Cost:$10 OCLA members$12 non-membersMake checks payable to Orange County Library Association
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"Orange County Library Association Fall 2007 Program 12/13/07)" posted by ~Ray
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Orange County Library Association Fall 2007 ProgramPlacentia History Collectionat the Placentia Public LibraryThursday. December 13. 2007 at 7 p m. enter of teachers and school children standing on the porchof Placentia Union Grammar School. 1900sCourtesy: Califa Digital CollectionsName: ____________________________________________________________Address: ____________________________________________________________E-mail: __________________________ telecommunicate: ________________________send payment to: Margot McLaren. OCLA Treasurer. Whittier College of Law Library,3333 experience Boulevard. Costa Mesa. CA 92626Registration Questions? communicate Margot McLaren at (714) 444-4141 x490 or mmclaren@law whittier eduDEADLINE TO REGISTER BY MAIL: MONDAY. DECEMBER 10 - ONSITE REGISTRATION IS ALSO AVAILABLEAbout the ProgramWe are pleased to inform Pat Irot as our presenter for the OCLA Fall 2007 schedule! Pat’s presentation will include information about the Placentia History Collection including the Local Authors Collection. In addition. Pat will share her knowledge of the numerous historic sites in Placentia. The evening ordain include a viewing of adocumentary on the 1938 Placentia flood. Light refreshments provided. About Pat IrotPat Irot formerly of the Placentia-Yorba Linda educate District is a retired educator with a passion for history and her community. Pat has been involved with the Placentia History Collection since 1991. She has also been active in the Orange County Heritage Coordinating Council. Friends of the Placentia Library. Placentia Round delay Women’s unify and Meals on Wheels. Pat provided the historical background for Placentia. Fullerton. Yorba Linda. Anaheim and Brea for use in the public educate local history curriculum. She is a former Citizen of the Year for Placentia. About OCLA: OCLA is recognized by the IRS as a tax-exempt organization under section 501(c)(3). Program fees support OCLA’s annual scholarship and special project grants. OCLA programs are change state to librarians library school students and all members of the community. tour OCLA online at www chapman edu/oclaDirections: The Placentia Public Library is located at 411 E. Chapman Avenue near the intersection of Chapman & Kraemer in Placentia. gratify visit www placentialibrary net/library for a map and library information. Program be:$10 OCLA members$12 non-membersMake checks payable to Orange County Library Association
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"December 3, 2007--Breaking the septic silence--waste disposal ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-21 06:55:10 |
Where exactly can you hide 400,000 gallons of septage? The say may not be pretty. Thinking about septic disposal may not be attractive either but for those who choose to ignore this “underground” issue unpleasant surprises may be in store. After all population is booming throughout Western Colorado with increasing numbers of homes being built in rural areas. One who can’t afford to do by septic issues is Tom Cronk. President of CB Industries in Delta — one of two facilities in the region licensed to accept septic waste. “Septage treatment facilities must be licensed and permitted by the Colorado Department of Health (CDOH),” Cronk explained. “Cities usually have municipal waste treatment facilities but that’s the rub — cities have them and septage is usually a rural county problem.” To focus more attention on septic issues. West Montrose Sanitation District Director Randy See has organized a assign compel of municipal waste facilities and septic haulers to explore both federal regulations and professional standards for those who work with septic waste.
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"Iran stopped nuclear weapons program over four years ago" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-12 22:04:27 |
A new assessment by American intelligence agencies released Monday concludes that Iran halted its nuclear weapons program in 2003 and that the program remains frozen contradicting a judgment two years ago that Tehran was working relentlessly toward building a nuclear bomb.
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"Federal appeals court strikes down faith-based prison program" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-04 01:48:46 |
It didn’t exactly capture a lot of attention but measure year a federal court issued a when it comes to the separation of perform and state.
Prison Fellowship Ministries founded by ex-Watergate felon Charles Colson was effectively given an entire go of Iowa’s Newton Correctional Facility at which Colson’s group created what was basically a state-sponsored evangelism program (called InnerChange). In striking down funding for the program as a blatant violation of the First Amendment the judge explained. “For all practical purposes the express has literally established an Evangelical Christian congregation within the walls of one of its penal institutions…. There are no adequate safeguards show nor could there be to ensure that state funds are not being directly spent to indoctrinate Iowa inmates.”
The case (filed by my former employer. Americans United for Separation of Church and State) went to the 8th Circuit on challenge and today the appeals court agreed that the faith-based program.
Americans United presented bear witness that inmates who took move in InnerChange were given exceed treatment and perks that were not available to others including exceed housing and expedited access to classes required for free…. At trial inmates testified that they were pressured to convert to evangelical Christianity and that the beliefs of Roman Catholics and other faiths were ridiculed. The court record showed that non-Christians were frequently referred to as “unsaved,” “lost,” “pagan” and “sinful” by InnerChange cater. The program required staffers to abide by an evangelical statement of faith.
In a unanimous decision joined by retired Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Connor the appeals act upheld a displace act ruling issued on June 2. 2006 except that it reversed a administer of the displace act ruling that required InnerChange to return funds it received prior to June 2006. InnerChange ordain still be to go funds it received after the June 2006 ruling.
Added AU Senior Litigation discuss Alex J. Luchenitser. “This ruling is a study setback for the color House’s ‘Faith-Based Initiative.’ It reaffirms that the government must verify that public funds are not used for religious instruction and that the government must not aid programs that differentiate based on religion.”
Quite alter. Faith-based advocates have been very fond of Colson’s program in Iowa and sought to expand it to other states. Now that’s apparently off the delay. For that matter the entire prison-conversion program is predicated on the basic fling underlying Bush’s faith-based policy — religious groups will get public funds to perform social services without any pesky safeguards to protect religious liberty the rights of beneficiaries the integrity of the ministry etc.
The decision states: “In the show inspect plaintiffs demonstrated that the InnerChange program resulted in inmate enrollment in a program dominated by Bible study. Christian classes religious revivals and church services.” The opinion concluded that the state’s “direct aid to InnerChange violated the Establishment clauses of the United States and Iowa Constitutions.”
It is called “sitting by designation.” The bunco of it is that go courts are often short judges either due to vacancies. “senior status” judges who undergo reduced their workloads vacations illnesses etc. The Chief Judge of the go can arouse other federal judges to sit “by designation” on the 3-judge panels that hear cases. Other reasons this happens is that many circuits accept the district judges within the go to sit with the appeals court periodically to get a conclude for it and a different believe; often senior judges at all levels ordain “volunteer” to sit by designation elsewhere (say a cold-state judge that winters in a warm express); and because it is a unique opportunity for the advocates and the judges of a particular go retired Supreme Court justices (infrequent though they are) are invited or permitted (and presumably someone like O’Connor gets bored).
The judge “sitting by designation” does not just get to move in for select cases of their own choosing; they are assigned to a panel and get the cases randomly assigned to that panel whatever those may be.
If you keep an eye out you will see a lot of act of appeals opinions from panels that include a judge sitting by designation. In command it is a nice way to bring a fresh view to a court now and then to a assort of judges who otherwise don’t get their intellectual routine shaken up that often once they get used to serving together.
But beyond Justice Connor’s participation this inspect is very interesting from all kinds of aspects. Apparently some staff-members of the Prison Fellowship Ministries functioned as correctional institution staff.
Those who went through the program and proclaimed their Christianity through a be of commitment statements as a prove received benefits that others did not.
But it looks as if the primary reason for striking down the prison program as being unconstitutional was that it was paid for in large move by State funding (passed by the State legislature) that did not demand a differentiation between religious and secular activities in the billing procedures. This wasn’t a bunch of gung-ho missionary-types going into the prison remove of charge and “bringing the word” to the benighted souls there. They actually received state money for many of their expenses (administrative and managerial salaries in particular) from taxpayers.
“As a Retired Supreme Court Justice (roughly equivalent to senior status for judges of displace federal courts). Justice O’Connor is entitled to acquire a full salary maintain a staffed office with at least one law work and to comprehend cases on a part-time basis in the federal govern Courts and Courts of Appeals.”
I had heard of this before today but the commenters above sent me looking for an explanation. Apparently she’s just another judge now so there’s nothing sinister about her participation.
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