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Hello. I am a big PC Gamer and I always have been and I do not think that will change. I am currently debating to purchase a xbox 360 or a Playstation 3 this holiday season but here is the main concern that I have is that most of the xbox 360 games are avaliable on the PC and thus I rather play those on my pc. I was aiming more towards Playstation 3 since most of the games are hard to go around on PC I experience that there are similiar games on both the consoles and each one has its exclusives. I be to support gaming in command and as desire as a game is worth playing it does not matter to me what console or pc is it on. I shall still play it. I shall appreciate your feedback regarding this and please do not flame this being a fanboy topic since I believe that competition is good for us customers. Thanking You. Xiinn. you buy the external control for the Xbox.. but regardless. Microsoft's XBox be service still blows away the Playstation Network as far as a user-friendly online gaming experience and in the end that's the deal-maker/breaker for me =) What I'm playing currently: (PC) - Crysis - Unreal Tournament 3 - Quake Wars: Enemy Territory (Xbox) - Halo 3 - Team Fortress 2 - Shadowrun _____________________________Intel C2D E6600 @ 3.6Ghz (9x400) EVGA 680i SLI A1 EVGA 8800GTS 640MB (x2 SLI) 2GB Corsair Dominators (4-4-4-12-2T) 150GB WD Raptor X (x2 Raid 0) Ultra X3 1000W Antec 900 Sony Bravia 40" XBR4 (1920x1080p) Logitech G15 & G5 Vista Ultimate x64 Well dude. I'm kind of in the same predicament as you. (cept I don't actually have the funds to purchase either of the consoles :P) and my advice to you would be thus: Do you have a kickass HD TV? If so then buying the PS3 might be what you want. Since the PS3 has such powerful hardware and can produce such high quality visuals it necessitates that you have killler quality hardware yourself. If you're just going to be playing games on a 27" CRT TV with no bells and whistles whatsoever. I would not buy a PS3 because you'll be spending $600 on killer graphics that you can't actually see (to their full potential at least.) Are there any particular games you MUST have for either system? I myself am a huge fan of the Gran Turismo series and bought the PS2 specifically for GT4. Now that GT5 is coming out. I'm dying to get my hands on a PS3 but I'm also dying to get 600 hot dollar bills in my wallet too. :P Basically. I would weigh what games you really want for each system and also consider the long term investment of each console. Movie sh¡t. Blue-Ray or HD-DVD? Personally. I don't have a preference since good 'ol DVD is still just fine for me but again if you have a killer HD TV then get the PS3 with its Blue-Ray player but if you have normal non-godlike hardware. I'd say the x360 is the better value. Also keep in mind the history of both consoles. Did you like more games on the Xbox or the PS2. Since both consoles are "supposed" to have backwards compatability think about the games you liked from each console's forerunner and use that to perhaps forecast how you'll like the next wave of games. However if you want another perhaps more intelligent and witty piece of advice watch this video: _____________________________ Not to argue with Intel_4_L but I'd just like to point out that there isn't much difference in video quality-capability between the two consoles now. Both can currently do 16:9/1080p so for video-quality it really boils drink a few specifics... - The resolution a specific game is made for (480. 720 or 1080) and whether that game has to be upscaled on your TV - The color levels used in said game to give you that vibrant/saturated/live-color look - Or in the case of a DVD the particular type of next-gen dvd each can respectively play In the end. Intel_4_L is correct - it comes down to what games you want to play the most =) _____________________________Intel C2D E6600 @ 3.6Ghz (9x400) EVGA 680i SLI A1 EVGA 8800GTS 640MB (x2 SLI) 2GB Corsair Dominators (4-4-4-12-2T) 150GB WD Raptor X (x2 assail 0) Ultra X3 1000W Antec 900 Sony Bravia 40" XBR4 (1920x1080p) Logitech G15 & G5 Vista Ultimate x64 Thanks for the input guys. I understand your points Intel_4_L & Jakura. I agree with your Intel_4_L that its no point purchasing if you do not have a HDTV that will support HDMI and 720P/1080p resolutions. I was leaning more towards the xbox because I am more into FPS/Sports games but most of the games I already undergo on my PC example COD4. Orange Box. Splinter Cell. Bioshock and so on. I think given time developers are going to unlock the true potential of the Cell Processor and really make use of all that power. As for dvd's I dont really care for HD or BlueRay. I still watch regular dvd's. I guess I could either wait till pass when more games are out for both systems and then weigh the situation and see which one actually worth picking up. Later. Xiinn. quote:ORIGINAL: jakura Not to argue with Intel_4_L but I'd just like to point out that there isn't much difference in video quality-capability between the two consoles now. Both can currently do 16:9/1080p so for video-quality it really boils down a few specifics... - The resolution a specific game is made for (480. 720 or 1080) and whether that game has to be upscaled on your TV - The color levels used in said bet to give you that vibrant/saturated/live-color look - Or in the case of a DVD the particular type of next-gen dvd each can respectively play In the end. Intel_4_L is correct - it comes down to what games you want to play the most =) You know you're right. I was just thinking about the graphical comparisons between the PS3 and x360 in DiRT and the x360 actually looked exceed! I guess I was just looking at all the games that were touted to look better on the PS3... Though since they take so much longer to alter the x360 i think takes the win on this one. _____________________________ quote:ORIGINAL: jakura Not to argue with Intel_4_L but I'd just desire to point out that there isn't much difference in video quality-capability between the two consoles now. Both can currently do 16:9/1080p so for video-quality it really boils down a few specifics... - The resolution a specific game is made for (480. 720 or 1080) and whether that game has to be upscaled on your TV - The color levels used in said game to give you that vibrant/saturated/live-color look - Or in the case of a DVD the particular type of next-gen dvd each can respectively play In the end. Intel_4_L is correct - it comes down to what games you want to play the most =) And also he is forgetting that the Xenos GPU in the Xbox 360 is actually far more advanced than the RSX GPU in the PS3. So the graphics and image quality is usually better on the 360. The Xenos (AKA R500) has a fuly unified shader architecture (48 shaders total) with 16 ROPs and is actually slightly more powerful than a X1900XTX interms of performance The RSX (AKA G70) does not have unified shaders and sports a be of 24 shaders and 24 ROPs and is roughly in terms of performance equal to a 7800GTX. _____________________________E8600@ 5Ghz H2O (chilled) 4.7Ghz 24/7 2x HD4870 @ 900/4800 H20 (chilled) Ageia PhysX Gigabyte X38 DS4 4GB G. Skill PC8000 Silverstone ST1200 1200w quote:ORIGINAL: CraptacularOne And also he is forgetting that the Xenos GPU in the Xbox 360 is actually far more advanced than the RSX GPU in the PS3. So the graphics and image quality is usually better on the 360. The Xenos (AKA R500) has a fuly unified shader architecture (48 shaders total) with 16 ROPs and is actually slightly more powerful than a X1900XTX interms of performance The RSX (AKA G70) does not have unified shaders and sports a total of 24 shaders and 24 ROPs and is roughly in terms of performance equal to a 7800GTX. _____________________________Intel C2D E6600 @ 3.6Ghz (9x400) EVGA 680i SLI A1 EVGA 8800GTS 640MB (x2 SLI) 2GB Corsair Dominators (4-4-4-12-2T) 150GB WD Raptor X (x2 assail 0) Ultra X3 1000W Antec 900 Sony Bravia 40" XBR4 (1920x1080p) Logitech G15 & G5 Vista Ultimate x64 Everytime I go into Gamestop. I always ask if anyone is buying the PS3 and they always say no one is buying it. As for me the regular dvd player on the Xbox360 looks almost HD when using a good HDTV. Just for that. I really like my Xbox360 as it plays movies well and most of the games I am looking send to will come out for this system atm. I have not bought a PS3 for the reason of its price and that there isn't a game yet that is exclusive to it and that I really want to play. Eventually most all PS3 and Xbox360 games will get to the pc and at this point I will be buying my games for the PC. _____________________________Need to update pics in mods rigs... XP 32-bit | Vista 32-bit | Evga 780i FTW qfsb 1650x9 E6600 @3.7 w/ xigmatek hsf and antec 1200 case | 2x1GB A-Data @ 825 4-3-4-8 2t 2.1v | 2x 260gtx 726/1458/2400 | 2x250GB Western Digital HDD | 750W Thermaltake Toughpower | Vantage (physx enabled): P19,782 I have a 360 but I have alota games twice call od duty fear halo blah blah. I love my 360 but ps3 is good for high def and the accesies are much cheaper like for instance the wifi for the 360 is 100 dolors things like that high def drive is 150 bucks. 120gig hard drive. another 100 bucks it just keeps adding up so to say 360 is cheaper choice not true and most the games on the ps3 look better on lcd\plasmas high def tv's. I alwyas read the stats of the 360 and they looked father ahread then the ps3 but it never seems to use them :\ idk you're really spliting hairs. Processor: Custom IBM PowerPC CPU Processor Clock Speed: 3.2 GHz System Memory: 512 MB UMA (Shared with GPU) Graphics Processor: Custom ATI Processor Graphics Core Clock Speed: 500MHz Video Memory: 512 MB UMA (Shared with CPU) Embedded Video Memory: 10MB eDRAM Resolutions Supported: 480i. 480p. 720p. 1080i. 1080p Optical Disc Format: Dual-Layer DVD-ROM Media Formats: DVD-Video. DVD-ROM. DVD-R/RW. DVD+R/RW. CD-DA. CD-ROM. CD-R. CD-RW. WMA CD. MP3 CD. 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Hello. I am a big PC Gamer and I always undergo been and I do not think that will change. I am currently debating to purchase a xbox 360 or a Playstation 3 this holiday season but here is the main concern that I have is that most of the xbox 360 games are avaliable on the PC and thus I rather play those on my pc. I was aiming more towards Playstation 3 since most of the games are hard to come around on PC I know that there are similiar games on both the consoles and each one has its exclusives. I tend to support gaming in general and as long as a game is worth playing it does not be to me what console or pc is it on. I shall still compete it. I shall appreciate your feedback regarding this and please do not beam this being a fanboy topic since I believe that competition is good for us customers. Thanking You. Xiinn. you buy the external drive for the Xbox.. but regardless. Microsoft's XBox Live function still blows away the Playstation Network as far as a user-friendly online gaming experience and in the end that's the deal-maker/breaker for me =) What I'm playing currently: (PC) - Crysis - Unreal Tournament 3 - Quake Wars: Enemy Territory (Xbox) - Halo 3 - Team Fortress 2 - Shadowrun _____________________________Intel C2D E6600 @ 3.6Ghz (9x400) EVGA 680i SLI A1 EVGA 8800GTS 640MB (x2 SLI) 2GB Corsair Dominators (4-4-4-12-2T) 150GB WD Raptor X (x2 Raid 0) Ultra X3 1000W Antec 900 Sony Bravia 40" XBR4 (1920x1080p) Logitech G15 & G5 Vista Ultimate x64 Well dude. I'm kind of in the same predicament as you. (cept I don't actually have the funds to purchase either of the consoles :P) and my advice to you would be thus: Do you have a kickass HD TV? If so then buying the PS3 might be what you want. Since the PS3 has such powerful hardware and can produce such high quality visuals it necessitates that you undergo killler quality hardware yourself. If you're just going to be playing games on a 27" CRT TV with no bells and whistles whatsoever. I would not buy a PS3 because you'll be spending $600 on killer graphics that you can't actually see (to their full potential at least.) Are there any particular games you MUST have for either system? I myself am a huge fan of the Gran Turismo series and bought the PS2 specifically for GT4. Now that GT5 is coming out. I'm dying to get my hands on a PS3 but I'm also dying to get 600 hot dollar bills in my wallet too. :P Basically. I would weigh what games you really want for each system and also consider the long term investment of each console. Movie sh¡t. Blue-Ray or HD-DVD? Personally. I don't undergo a preference since good 'ol DVD is still just fine for me but again if you have a killer HD TV then get the PS3 with its Blue-Ray player but if you have normal non-godlike hardware. I'd say the x360 is the better determine. Also act in mind the history of both consoles. Did you like more games on the Xbox or the PS2. Since both consoles are "supposed" to have backwards compatability evaluate about the games you liked from each console's forerunner and use that to perhaps forecast how you'll like the next wave of games. However if you want another perhaps more intelligent and witty piece of advice watch this video: _____________________________ Not to argue with Intel_4_L but I'd just like to point out that there isn't much difference in video quality-capability between the two consoles now. Both can currently do 16:9/1080p so for video-quality it really boils down a few specifics... - The resolution a specific game is made for (480. 720 or 1080) and whether that game has to be upscaled on your TV - The color levels used in said game to give you that vibrant/saturated/live-color be - Or in the case of a DVD the particular type of next-gen dvd each can respectively play In the end. Intel_4_L is correct - it comes down to what games you want to play the most =) _____________________________Intel C2D E6600 @ 3.6Ghz (9x400) EVGA 680i SLI A1 EVGA 8800GTS 640MB (x2 SLI) 2GB Corsair Dominators (4-4-4-12-2T) 150GB WD Raptor X (x2 Raid 0) Ultra X3 1000W Antec 900 Sony Bravia 40" XBR4 (1920x1080p) Logitech G15 & G5 Vista Ultimate x64 Thanks for the input guys. I understand your points Intel_4_L & Jakura. I agree with your Intel_4_L that its no inform purchasing if you do not have a HDTV that will support HDMI and 720P/1080p resolutions. I was leaning more towards the xbox because I am more into FPS/Sports games but most of the games I already undergo on my PC example COD4. Orange Box. Splinter Cell. Bioshock and so on. I evaluate given time developers are going to unlock the true potential of the Cell Processor and really make use of all that power. As for dvd's I dont really care for HD or BlueRay. I comfort watch regular dvd's. I guess I could either wait till summer when more games are out for both systems and then weigh the situation and see which one actually worth picking up. Later. Xiinn. ingeminate:ORIGINAL: jakura Not to argue with Intel_4_L but I'd just like to point out that there isn't much difference in video quality-capability between the two consoles now. Both can currently do 16:9/1080p so for video-quality it really boils down a few specifics... - The resolution a specific game is made for (480. 720 or 1080) and whether that game has to be upscaled on your TV - The color levels used in said game to give you that vibrant/saturated/live-color look - Or in the case of a DVD the particular type of next-gen dvd each can respectively play In the end. Intel_4_L is change by reversal - it comes drink to what games you want to play the most =) You know you're right. I was just thinking about the graphical comparisons between the PS3 and x360 in DiRT and the x360 actually looked better! I guess I was just looking at all the games that were touted to look better on the PS3... Though since they take so much longer to make the x360 i think takes the win on this one. _____________________________ quote:ORIGINAL: jakura Not to argue with Intel_4_L but I'd just like to point out that there isn't much difference in video quality-capability between the two consoles now. Both can currently do 16:9/1080p so for video-quality it really boils down a few specifics... - The resolution a specific game is made for (480. 720 or 1080) and whether that game has to be upscaled on your TV - The color levels used in said game to give you that vibrant/saturated/live-color be - Or in the case of a DVD the particular type of next-gen dvd each can respectively play In the end. Intel_4_L is correct - it comes down to what games you want to compete the most =) And also he is forgetting that the Xenos GPU in the Xbox 360 is actually far more advanced than the RSX GPU in the PS3. So the graphics and image quality is usually better on the 360. The Xenos (AKA R500) has a fuly unified shader architecture (48 shaders be) with 16 ROPs and is actually slightly more powerful than a X1900XTX interms of performance The RSX (AKA G70) does not have unified shaders and sports a total of 24 shaders and 24 ROPs and is roughly in terms of performance equal to a 7800GTX. _____________________________E8600@ 5Ghz H2O (chilled) 4.7Ghz 24/7 2x HD4870 @ 900/4800 H20 (chilled) Ageia PhysX Gigabyte X38 DS4 4GB G. Skill PC8000 Silverstone ST1200 1200w quote:ORIGINAL: CraptacularOne And also he is forgetting that the Xenos GPU in the Xbox 360 is actually far more advanced than the RSX GPU in the PS3. So the graphics and image quality is usually better on the 360. The Xenos (AKA R500) has a fuly unified shader architecture (48 shaders total) with 16 ROPs and is actually slightly more powerful than a X1900XTX interms of performance The RSX (AKA G70) does not have unified shaders and sports a total of 24 shaders and 24 ROPs and is roughly in terms of performance equal to a 7800GTX. _____________________________Intel C2D E6600 @ 3.6Ghz (9x400) EVGA 680i SLI A1 EVGA 8800GTS 640MB (x2 SLI) 2GB Corsair Dominators (4-4-4-12-2T) 150GB WD Raptor X (x2 Raid 0) Ultra X3 1000W Antec 900 Sony Bravia 40" XBR4 (1920x1080p) Logitech G15 & G5 Vista Ultimate x64 Everytime I go into Gamestop. I always ask if anyone is buying the PS3 and they always say no one is buying it. As for me the regular dvd player on the Xbox360 looks almost HD when using a good HDTV. Just for that. I really like my Xbox360 as it plays movies well and most of the games I am looking forward to ordain come out for this system atm. I have not bought a PS3 for the reason of its price and that there isn't a game yet that is exclusive to it and that I really want to play. Eventually most all PS3 and Xbox360 games will get to the pc and at this point I will be buying my games for the PC. _____________________________Need to update pics in mods rigs... XP 32-bit | Vista 32-bit | Evga 780i FTW qfsb 1650x9 E6600 @3.7 w/ xigmatek hsf and antec 1200 case | 2x1GB A-Data @ 825 4-3-4-8 2t 2.1v | 2x 260gtx 726/1458/2400 | 2x250GB Western Digital HDD | 750W Thermaltake Toughpower | Vantage (physx enabled): P19,782 I undergo a 360 but I have alota games twice call od duty worry halo blah blah. I love my 360 but ps3 is good for high def and the accesies are much cheaper like for instance the wifi for the 360 is 100 dolors things like that high def drive is 150 bucks. 120gig hard drive. another 100 bucks it just keeps adding up so to say 360 is cheaper choice not true and most the games on the ps3 look better on lcd\plasmas high def tv's. I alwyas read the stats of the 360 and they looked father ahread then the ps3 but it never seems to use them :\ idk you're really spliting hairs. Processor: Custom IBM PowerPC CPU Processor Clock Speed: 3.2 GHz System Memory: 512 MB UMA (Shared with GPU) Graphics Processor: Custom ATI Processor Graphics Core Clock Speed: 500MHz Video Memory: 512 MB UMA (Shared with CPU) Embedded Video Memory: 10MB eDRAM Resolutions Supported: 480i. 480p. 720p. 1080i. 1080p Optical Disc Format: Dual-Layer DVD-ROM Media Formats: DVD-Video. DVD-ROM. DVD-R/RW. DVD+R/RW. CD-DA. CD-ROM. CD-R. CD-RW. WMA CD. MP3 CD. JPEG Photo CD Processor: IBM Cell Processor System Memory: 256MB XDR Graphics Processor: Nvidia RSX Video Memory: 256MB GDDR3 Resolutions Supported: 480i. 480p. 720p. 1080i. 1080p Optical Disc Format: Blu-ray Integrated Communications: Bluetooth. 802.11 B/G Wi-Fi < Message edited by patrick1game -- 11/29/2007 8:07:51 PM > _____________________________Need to modify pics in mods rigs... XP 32-bit | Vista 32-bit | Evga 780i FTW qfsb 1650x9 E6600 @3.7 w/ xigmatek hsf and antec 1200 case | 2x1GB A-Data @ 825 4-3-4-8 2t 2.1v | 2x 260gtx 726/1458/2400 | 2x250GB Western Digital HDD | 750W Thermaltake Toughpower | Vantage (physx enabled): P19,782

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